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01/27/10 00:49
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#172746 - Fact is ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
because these ATMEL's built-in Pierce oscillators don't work very well at such high frequencies.

... I should have remembered that some (most?) Atmel chips are badly designed (which is part of my reason for not using Arghmel - their reply to a certain post is the main one)

Erik

The ATMEL pirece oscillators work as well as anyone's, but those don't work well at the 3rd harmonic.

Since the O/P doesn't even know the difference between a crystal and a crystal oscillator, it's safe, IMHO, to believe that he's not going into production. Hence, using an oscillator is no sin, since they generally work, while MCU's Pierce oscillators sometimes do and sometimes don't.

The O/P wants something that oscillates at somewhere near 33 MHz, the point being to make it run faster than at the 11 MHz rate at which he's proven it does.

Manufacturer considerations aside, and you know I have no love lost on ATMEL, if the MCU is capable of operating at 33 MHz, and you want it to run at 33 MHz, then the setup for 11 MHz will produce exatly 3x the result, speed-wise, when using 33 MHz, which, as I pointed out, he can probably find on an old PC motherboard that's lying about somewhere, as with the 11 MHz that has satisfied him that it does work as expected.

... and for your benefit, Kai, in case you read this ... it's a food fight not a foot fight, that Erik frequently wants to start ... You know ... like the 3-year-old tossing his vegetables at his syblings.

RE



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TopicAuthorDate
execution speed and crystal frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
   my guess is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   overtone            01/01/70 00:00      
   As others already mentioned...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Indeed overtone            01/01/70 00:00      
         Just try the crystal with 15pF + 15pF caps.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try it with a crystal oscillator, rather than a crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
      baloney            01/01/70 00:00      
         Baloney #2            01/01/70 00:00      
         Where is your head wedged, Erik?            01/01/70 00:00      
            just correcting invalid info            01/01/70 00:00      
               SO ... What, exactly, is incorrect?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  already stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You are showing us how smart you are again, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        not my intention, but thanks for the compliment            01/01/70 00:00      
         Richard is right...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I do not use these and ....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Fact is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  as Kai stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     so ... Erik ... what's your point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I did            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Once again, Erik, you've missed the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              YOU would sell a suicide candidate a rope            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 come on...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     come on...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Specifying Quartz Crystals            01/01/70 00:00      

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