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01/03/10 01:04
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#172143 - Maybe not now ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
Contrary to the claims of many a programmer seller, there is no "universal" programmer. The best you can hope for is one that programs the devices YOU want to program. Few of them will even do that. Most often, you have to have a programmer specifically designed to program the chip you are using.

never saw a chip that bp micro could not program (sometimes a few months after the introduction of a new chip and with a <b<free software upgrade)

Erik

When I bought my BP programmer, they couldn't program any more than half the chips I wanted to program, I ended up sending the thing back because then they didn't handle 'em as well or as promptly as today. That's why I use the UniSite from Data I/O. That's always, until a more fancy model from Data I/O became available, been the benchmark. Before the UniSite, it was the old '2900. You saw them everywhere. A second-hand UniSite will program almost anything, and, if it doesn't, which wouldn't surprise me with the ATMEL chips' requirement for a dedicated programmer for every revision, costs considerably less with all the "bells and whistles" (for various packages) than a BP. Almost everything I use or even encounter is serially programmable these days. The discussions here have shown that, too.

I have, however, concluded that it's best to have a programmer designed specifically to handle those newer Atmel or Philips parts. I don't know about others. I've found the simple, 3-IC serial programmer that handles the Maxim/Dallas parts is pretty effective.

The UniSite, though it once was intended to do just that, never did handle every possible package. After a while, one had more hardware, and more cash invested in it in the form of adapters, than in the UniSite, which was a BIG investment when it was current.

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P89V51RD2 IAP and ISP writeup            01/01/70 00:00      
   e-mail it to andy ayre            01/01/70 00:00      
   thanks for replay            01/01/70 00:00      
      once again readout data            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'll look at it tomorrow            01/01/70 00:00      
            case sensitive assembler            01/01/70 00:00      
            Read Data....from address            01/01/70 00:00      
               What kind of programmer?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  never saw a chip that ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Maybe not now ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Before 2000h perfect working            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no bootloader            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Why at 0x0100?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        p89v51rd2bn            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Have you told us everything?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              using IAP routine            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I'd suggest you focus on the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I love these replies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       NXP practice            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          not in this case            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Getting Solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                HUH????            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   good response            01/01/70 00:00      
                           have you read my last two posts?            01/01/70 00:00      

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